How does the Brinkley Model R compare?
Brinkley's first front-living fifth wheel is coming. Here is the whole class it walks into: ten front-living rigs laid out fact by fact, how they're built and what they come with, plus what 1,943 real buyers said about them. No brand bias, and the Model R's tradeoffs are on the page too.
Six differences that decide it
Weight and cargo
The Model R publishes 18,750 lb empty, heavier than 8 of the ten, but carries a 4,750 lb cargo allowance, the most in the class except Luxe. Match it to your truck's ratings, not the dry hitch number.
One bath versus two toilets
The Model R has one central full bathroom with a single sink. 7 of the ten competitors add a half bath. If overnight guests are your normal, that matters more than any spec.
Sofas and sleeping
An Amish-crafted L-sofa with two recliners plus one 54 by 80 sleeper. Several competitors run two opposing sofas or two sleepers. The Dinesk table doubles as a desk, which most of the class cannot do.
Running gear
Two 10K MORryde independent axles, hydraulic disc brakes, J-rated tires and a 30K GEN-Y pin box are standard. Disc brakes are standard on only two competitors; independent suspension on two.
Climate design
Two 20,000 BTU zones mounted between the frame rails and ducted to every room, instead of rooftop units. Brinkley claims 60 dB; that is a manufacturer claim, not a test we have run.
Price
To be announced. The flyer prices options only. Every dealer-sold competitor transacts 30 to 40 percent under MSRP, so compare configured quotes, not sticker to sticker.
Tradeoffs, stated plainly
- One bathroom with a single sink; seven of the ten competitors have a half bath.
- One dedicated sleeper sofa; several competitors have two.
- Published empty weight of 18,750 lb is higher than every competitor except Riverstone, Luxe and Redwood.
- Vehicle MSRP is to be announced; the flyer shows option prices only.
- Frame, wall construction, slide mechanism, leveling and warranty terms are not on the pre-production flyer.
The class, fact by fact
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Model R 3710
2027 · Pre-production
Pinnacle 39FLOK
2027
- MSRP
- $216,569$185,878
- Length
- 41'4"44'6"
- Empty weight
- 18,750 lb15,920 lb
- GVWR
- 23,500 lb18,800 lb
- Cargo allowance
- 4,750 lb2,880 lb
- Slides
- 55
Included = standard or in a manufacturer-mandatory package. Optional and Prep are what they say. Not published means unpublished, not absent.
Model R 3710 2027 · Pre-production | Pinnacle 39FLOK 2027 |  Paradigm 385FL 2027 listing · Transition note |  Solitude 380FL 2027 | North Point 382FLRB 2026 · Previous model year | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MSRP | $216,569 | $185,878 | $151,772 | $180,926 | $151,036 |
| Length | 41'4" | 44'6" | 41'4" | 41'4" | 43'10" |
| Empty weight | 18,750 lb | 15,920 lb | 15,636 lb | 15,800 lb | 15,470 lb |
| GVWR | 23,500 lb | 18,800 lb | 19,000 lb | 19,000 lb | 17,995 lb |
| Cargo allowance | 4,750 lb | 2,880 lb | 3,364 lb | 2,962 lb | 2,525 lb |
| Slides | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
Included = standard or in a manufacturer-mandatory package. Optional and Prep are what they say. Not published means the manufacturer has not said, not that it is absent.
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What matters to you
Pick your must-haves and set your limits. The class narrows to the units that have all of them, as delivered.
No limits set. Every competitor is in.
The facts, unit by unit
What each maker publishes, and nothing else. Sort any column. The Model R stays at the top.
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Every layout, drawn by its maker
Manufacturer drawings for the model year shown on the badge. Tap one to enlarge it; on a phone, use Zoom and drag to read the labels.
From Brinkley's preview flyer
Running gear
- ▸MORryde independent suspension on two 10K axles with hydraulic disc brakes
- ▸17.5-in wheels with J-rated 16-ply tires and banded TPMS
- ▸30K GEN-Y torsion-flex pin box
Power
- ▸3,000 W Victron inverter, 400 W solar, 200 Ah self-heating lithium
- ▸Cerbo GX hub, 50 A MPPT, 30 A DC-DC charger
- ▸Generator prep; 50 A push-button cord reel
Climate
- ▸B-Chill two-zone system between the frame rails, 2 x 20,000 BTU, ducted to every room
- ▸35,000 BTU ducted furnace; tankless water heater
- ▸Manufacturer claims 60 dB interior operation
Kitchen
- ▸19 cu ft GE residential fridge with ice and filtered water
- ▸30-in GE Profile oven with 4-burner range; air-fry microwave
- ▸Eat-in island; Dinesk table that converts to a desk or breakfast bar
Living
- ▸Amish-crafted L-sofa with two recliners plus a 54 x 80 sleeper sofa
- ▸65-in TV, fireplace, two-zone Rockford Fosgate audio
- ▸Living-room walk-in closet; carpet-free, pet-friendly interior
Storage
- ▸3-way pass-through bay with flip-up dividers
- ▸Rear barn-door cargo bay with tie-downs and AC power
- ▸Two 44 x 21 slide-tray drawers under the I-beam; 290 cu ft claimed
Travel days
- ▸Bedroom, bathroom and fridge reachable with the slides in
- ▸Rear and side cameras with 7-in display
- ▸65-ft retractable city-water hose; electric waste valves
Options priced on the flyer
- Slide toppers
- $3,612
- Full-body paint exterior package (silver, white or gold)
- $25,995
- Factory washer/dryer with drain pan (prep is standard)
- $3,700
- Factory GE dishwasher (prep is standard)
- $572
- GEN-Y gooseneck pin box
- $399
- 60 x 80 queen mattress with nightstands
- TBD
- Generator with fuel cell (prep is standard)
- TBD
- Standard run MSRP
- TBD
Preview option amounts, not a vehicle price or a dealer quote.
Travel-day access
Bedroom, bathroom and fridge are reachable with the slides in, per the flyer. Only the Model R documents this in the set; ask for a slides-in walkthrough on any competitor before assuming.
Room heights
Living 86 in · kitchen 110 in · bedroom 79.5 in.
Insulation
R40 floor, ceiling and front cap; R11 walls. Wall and frame construction are not on the flyer.
A fair reason to pick every one of them
Editorial reads of the published specs, not owner verdicts. Tap one to open its full entry.
Bighorn 39FL
2026 · 2027 identical specsPick the Bighorn 39FL if
Lower published empty weight (15,645 lb). One-and-a-half baths and a 72 x 80 king.
Pick the Model R if
2'6" shorter with far more cargo allowance (4,750 vs 2,350 lb). Larger fresh capacity (100 vs 75 gal).
Full entry ↓
Cedar Creek 398FL
2027Pick the Cedar Creek 398FL if
Substantially lower published empty weight (15,059 lb). A sectional front living room both reviewers loved.
Pick the Model R if
1'9" shorter with more cargo allowance. Independent suspension, disc brakes and dual-pane windows standard.
Full entry ↓
Luxe Regent 48FLB
Current specs · Year unverifiedPick the Luxe Regent 48FLB if
Dedicated front bonus room and one-and-a-half baths. Deep customization and a 5-year protection plan.
Pick the Model R if
6'8" shorter and roughly 5,000 lb lighter than Luxe's estimate. A clearly specified base package rather than a build sheet.
Full entry ↓
Montana 3800FL
2026 · 2027 listedPick the Montana 3800FL if
Lower shipping weight (16,750 lb). One-and-a-half baths, opposing sofas, desk and dinette.
Pick the Model R if
1'3" shorter with more cargo allowance. Independent suspension, disc brakes and dual panes standard.
Full entry ↓
North Point 382FLRB
2026 · Previous model yearPick the North Point 382FLRB if
Lower published empty weight. Second toilet, two tri-fold sofas and an exterior kitchen.
Pick the Model R if
2'6" shorter with more cargo allowance. Larger fresh capacity.
Full entry ↓
Paradigm 385FL
2027 listing · Transition notePick the Paradigm 385FL if
Lower published empty weight (15,636 vs 18,750 lb). One-and-a-half baths and two sleeper sofas.
Pick the Model R if
Same 41'4" length with more cargo allowance. Explicit base battery and inverter specs.
Full entry ↓
Pinnacle 39FLOK
2027Pick the Pinnacle 39FLOK if
A second toilet and two tri-fold sofas. 21 cu ft fridge, exterior kitchen and dishwasher in the 2027 baseline.
Pick the Model R if
Shorter, with more cargo allowance. 3,000 W inverter and 200 Ah lithium standard.
Full entry ↓
Redwood 420FL
Current specs · Year unverifiedPick the Redwood 420FL if
Six slides, two front sofas, 72 x 80 king and a rear full bath. Dishwasher, washer/dryer, wine fridge and central vac in the standard list.
Pick the Model R if
Almost four feet shorter. More cargo allowance (4,750 vs 3,278 lb).
Full entry ↓
Riverstone 45FLE
2027Pick the Riverstone 45FLE if
Six slides and a very large sofa-lined front living room. Dishwasher and washer/dryer installed in the mandatory package.
Pick the Model R if
3'7" shorter and about 1,000 lb lighter on published figures. Independent suspension and disc brakes standard.
Full entry ↓
Solitude 380FL
2027Pick the Solitude 380FL if
Lower published empty weight (15,800 vs 18,750 lb). One-and-a-half baths and two tri-fold sofas.
Pick the Model R if
Same 41'4" length with a larger listed cargo allowance. Tandem 10K independent suspension with hydraulic disc brakes standard.
Full entry ↓
1.9K comments, 23 videos, read in full
Every comment, reply and like on the reviews of every competitor, model year 2026 or newer. This is what buyers in this class care about before the Model R says a word.
What they talk about, by likes
- quality/build178 likes
- bath/shower151 likes
- layout/floorplan148 likes
- kitchen/appliances140 likes
- full-time/residential136 likes
- living/furniture112 likes
- weight/towing110 likes
- price/cost100 likes
- warranty/service90 likes
- want/buy intent88 likes
Brinkley came up on competitors' videos, unprompted
“Never even heard of this brand but new to RV world. Just night a Brinkley 5th. Wheel after much research. This brand never even came up. Beautiful!!! It’s interesting- I’ve been watching a lot of full time living RV influencers on YouTube and none own this brand.”
11 likes · on the Luxe Regent 48FLB review by Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“Very nice rig and a great price! If it came from one of the companies that rhyme with Shrinklee or Flux it would be double the price!”
2 likes · on the Cedar Creek 398FL review by The RV Hunter · open ↗
“I love how they build the Luxe, but it’s disappointing on the tank capacities, especially with the toy hauler line. Brinkley has bigger fresh water and gray water. Fine if it’s just for a golf cart from park to park, but would like additional capacity if I was taking my SxS or similar to somewhere for a few days and needed to boon dock.”
2 likes · on the Luxe Regent 48FLB review by Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“I see where Brinkley is the first in the industry to start using brass pro fittings. Be nice if Keystone followed suit. PLUS a great selling point! I too would pay a few hundred extra for it!”
1 likes · on the Montana 3800FL review by Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“After having just watched a Brinkley factory tour video... This looks like trash.”
1 likes · on the Montana 3800FL review by Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Kitchen looks great, but not enough light. After seeing how Alliance and Brinkley do rear kitchen layouts with frameless under-cabinet windows, I have to say that the fact it has zero windows over any counter in the kitchen feels like a missed opportunity. Yet the kitchen design itself is very nice. I’d have expected a window in front of the sink/under Microwave at a minimum.”
1 likes · on the Riverstone 45FLE review by Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
Questions buyers asked that nobody answered
Asked under these reviews and left hanging. Here is the Model R's answer to each, from the flyer.
What does it cost, street price versus MSRP?
To be announced. Brinkley's flyer lists option prices only.
Dry weight, pin weight, GVWR, cargo capacity, and what truck it really needs?
18,750 lb empty, 3,450 lb dry hitch, 23,500 lb GVWR, 4,750 lb cargo allowance. Match to your truck's ratings, not the dry hitch number alone.
Axle count and rating relative to GVWR?
Two 10K MORryde IS axles (20,000 lb) under a 23,500 lb GVWR.
Slide mechanism, slide by slide?
Five slides. The mechanism is not stated on the pre-production flyer.
Wall, roof and floor construction: composite or luan, aluminum or wood?
One-piece fiberglass-reinforced poly roof; R40 floor, ceiling and front cap; R11 walls. Wall and frame construction are not on the flyer.
Disc or drum brakes, and which suspension is standard?
Hydraulic disc brakes and MORryde independent suspension are standard.
Tank sizes?
100 fresh, 104 grey (52 + 52), 52 black; two 30 lb propane tanks.
Which bathroom is reachable with the slides in?
Bedroom, bathroom and fridge are reachable with the slides in, per the flyer.
Dishwasher and washer/dryer: standard, prep or option?
Dishwasher and washer/dryer are prep standard; factory-installed for $572 and $3,700.
Dual-pane windows?
Frameless dual-pane windows are standard.
Heat pumps, mini-splits or rooftop ACs, and how many?
Two 20,000 BTU zones mounted between the frame rails, ducted to every room, plus a 35,000 BTU furnace. Heat-pump operation is not stated.
Sleeping capacity for guests, and do the sofas convert?
King bed plus one 54 x 80 sleeper sofa. No official sleep count is published.
Can the front living room take a desk or theater seats?
The Dinesk table converts between dining table, desk and breakfast bar.
Length and campground fit?
41'4" overall, 13'4" tall.
Specs with sources, equipment as delivered, buyers in their own words
brinkley-model-r2027 · Pre-productionPrice to be announced41'4" · 18,750 lb empty▾
Brinkley pre-production flyer rev. 090426; specs and pricing subject to change.
Equipment
- Half bathNo
- DishwasherPrep
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useIncluded
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardIncluded
- Lithium batteryIncluded
- Disc brakesIncluded
- Independent suspensionIncluded
- No cable slidesNot verified
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelNot verified
- Outdoor kitchenIncluded
- Dual-pane windowsIncluded
- Bath reachable with slides inIncluded
- Full-time-rated warrantyNot verified
Not published by the maker on the pre-production flyer: frame, walls, floor, slide mechanism, warranty.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 41.33 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 18,750 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 23,500 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,450 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 4,750 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.33 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 100 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 104 galManufacturer
- Black
- 52 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 60 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Manufacturer
- Half bath
- NoManufacturer
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesManufacturer
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- YesManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- YesManufacturer
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 19 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- PrepManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Manufacturer
- Island
- YesManufacturer
Construction
- Frame
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Walls
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Roof
- FiberglassManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Floor deck
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Insulation
- R40 floors, ceiling and front cap; R11 wallsManufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- Not verifiedNot verified
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Axles
- 2Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 10,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- JManufacturer
- Brakes
- Disc, includedManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent, includedManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- Not verifiedNot verified
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 2 x 20,000 (40,000 total), two independent zonesManufacturer
- Heat pump
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Furnace
- 35,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 400 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 3,000 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- IncludedManufacturer
- Generator
- PrepManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- IncludedManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Structural warranty
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Rated for full-time living
- Not verifiedNot verified
Research notes
- PRE-PRODUCTION: every value is from Brinkley's preview flyer rev. 090426 and is subject to change before production.
- Vehicle MSRP is TBD. Option prices on the flyer: slide toppers $3,612; full-body paint $25,995; washer/dryer installed $3,700; dishwasher installed $572; gooseneck pin box $399; queen mattress with nightstands TBD; generator with fuel cell TBD.
- Tradeoffs the flyer makes visible: one bathroom with a single sink, one dedicated sleeper sofa, and a published empty weight (18,750 lb) above most units in this class.
- Frame, wall construction, slide mechanism, leveling system, warranty terms and heated underbelly are not on the flyer and are scored at the rubric's unknown midpoints.
- The B-Chill 40,000 BTU total, 60 dB and 500+ service-network statements are manufacturer claims, not independent tests.
Headline: 41'4" · 18,750 lb empty · GVWR 23,500 lb
Heartland Bighorn 39FL2026 · 2027 identical specs$97,995 dealer street43'10" · 15,645 lb empty▾
Heartland's 2026 page; the 2027 page publishes the same specifications.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸2'6" shorter with far more cargo allowance (4,750 vs 2,350 lb)
- ▸Larger fresh capacity (100 vs 75 gal)
- ▸Independent suspension, disc brakes, dual panes and lithium standard
Why consider the Bighorn 39FL
- ▸Lower published empty weight (15,645 lb)
- ▸One-and-a-half baths and a 72 x 80 king
- ▸Two 82-in front sofas and a drop-down TV wall
- ▸400 W solar and hydraulic 6-point leveling in the base package
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Sofa bed function and battery capacity
- ▸Which of IS, disc, heat pump, third AC and dual panes are on the quote
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherNo
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVNot verified
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useNo
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardIncluded
- Lithium batteryNo
- Disc brakesOptional
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesIncluded
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNot verified
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyNo
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 43.83 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 15,645 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 17,995 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,090 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 2,350 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.25 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 75 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 74 galManufacturer
- Black
- 74 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 90 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Manufacturer
- Half bath
- YesDealer listing
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesManufacturer
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedDealer listing
- Desk or office use
- NoManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 21 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- NoneManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Said on camera
- Island
- YesDealer listing
Construction
- Frame
- 12 in. structural steel I-beam with 8 or 10 in. 'monster beam' steel drop frame; skirt-metal enclosed drop frame; 102 in. wide bodyManufacturer
- Walls
- Core Shield: 2 in. vacuum-bonded laminated sidewalls and floors with 2 lb density foam; high-gloss gel-coat fiberglass exterior (full body paint optional). Framing and interior backer material not published.Manufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- PlywoodManufacturer
- Insulation
- No R-values published. ThermaShield zero-degree-tested package: 40K BTU furnace, double-layer fiberglass batt insulation (roof and floor), 2 lb density foam in walls and floor, enclosed heated underbelly.Manufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- HydraulicDealer listing
- Axles
- 2Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 8,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Disc optional; drum standardManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- OptionalManufacturer
- Furnace
- 40,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 400 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 1,800 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- NoManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 3 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- NoManufacturer
What buyers said on the reviews
94 comments and replies read across 2 videos · 12% positive, 11% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸The overall look, especially the full body paint and darker Jayco-style decor
- ▸The front living floorplan with drop-down TV wall and extra sleeping for guests
- ▸Kitchen storage, natural light and the bedroom/bath layout
- ▸Heartland being built by Jayco, read as a step up in quality
What they pushed back on
- ▸Not enough hanging closet space (four separate commenters; '18 inch closet ain't cutting it for two')
- ▸Too little kitchen counter space
- ▸Wanting a sectional and a 65-inch-plus TV rather than opposing sofas and a ~55-inch screen
- ▸Trading the half bath for a dishwasher, washer/dryer and pantry
Complaints, in their words
“Front livingroom with a big sectional in it!! Nothing smaller than a 65" TV!!”
3 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Soon as I saw the soundbar wasn’t centered that killed it for me.”
2 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“I love it! But where is a closet?? I mean serious hanging room?? Don’t need double sinks! Thank you!”
1 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“No big regular clothes closet. Women still wear dresses. Need a closet”
1 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
Praise, in their words
“I don't hate it, I'll give it a 4 and half bowling guns 💪💪💪💪🤛”
1 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“I love that floor plan and I that the wife will love it also, this floor plan is going to be our next one we get.”
1 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Beautiful looking camper”
1 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Nice!”
1 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
Reviewer criticisms
“As you can see, the descent seems to be a source of more noise, but it is still very fast.”
The RV Hunter at 6:42 · open ↗
Drop-down TV is louder and rougher coming down than going up
“although the massage here is closer to vibration than to actual massage.”
The RV Hunter at 5:53 · open ↗
Recliner massage is really just vibration
“having a small drawer or a hidden cabinet for a book or something like that would be great.”
The RV Hunter at 10:19 · open ↗
No hidden nightstand drawer or cabinet beside the bed
“I think it provides an extra table here, but I don't think it's really necessary.”
The RV Hunter at 5:21 · open ↗
Extra tabletop stored in the living room seems unnecessary
Videos this is based on
- Luxury Looks GOOD on This Bighorn 😍 2026 Bighorn 39FL · The RV Hunter · 3.4K views · 71 comments read · 2026 Bighorn 39FL
- 2026 Bighorn 39FL | Luxury Front Living 5th Wheel · The RV Hunter · 8.5K views · 23 comments read · 2026 Bighorn 39FL, Jan 2026
Research notes
- Primary video kkTgLJ_k57o has a machine back-translated transcript ('extensions' = slides, 'Subrahan' = Suburban, 'Gaeco' = Jayco). Where it is the only source (outdoor kitchen, four-burner range, ~55 in. TV) the field is flagged or left unknown.
- 2026 and 2027 floorplan pages publish identical specifications; only base MSRP differs ($134,175 vs $144,375). Unit shown is a 2026.
- Three packages (Camping in Comfort, Endurance Handling, Premium) are mandatory, so items inside them (tankless WH, 6-pt leveling, 2nd awning, central vac, W/D prep, fireplace, 400W solar, 1800W inverter, Helux pin box, Road Armor) are treated as standard.
- Standard A/C count is 2; both units shown carried the optional third 15K ducted unit. Heat pump is an option.
- Brakes: standard is Dexter drum with ABS/Tow Assist; disc brakes are a 7K/8K option or bundled with MORryde IS. Field coded disc_option, suspension coded independent_option, with the standard hardware recorded in notes.
Headline: 43'10" · 15,645 lb empty · GVWR 17,995 lb
Forest River Cedar Creek 398FL2027$101,799 dealer street43'1" · 15,059 lb empty▾
Forest River's 2027 398FL page.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸1'9" shorter with more cargo allowance
- ▸Independent suspension, disc brakes and dual-pane windows standard
- ▸Documented outdoor kitchen and storage conveniences
Why consider the Cedar Creek 398FL
- ▸Substantially lower published empty weight (15,059 lb)
- ▸A sectional front living room both reviewers loved
- ▸Rear double-sink bathroom
- ▸Lowest street prices seen in this class
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Price with equivalent options; axle and tire configuration
- ▸Whether the Champagne or touring package is on the quoted unit
- ▸Slide mechanism (cable slides reported on the sister 383FB)
Equipment
- Half bathNo
- DishwasherPrep
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingNo
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useNo
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardNo
- Lithium batteryNo
- Disc brakesNo
- Independent suspensionNo
- No cable slidesNo
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNo
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyNo
Not published by the maker: axles tires.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 43.08 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 15,059 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 18,000 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 2,670 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 2,941 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.25 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 82 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 82 galManufacturer
- Black
- 41 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 60 lbSaid on camera
Layout
- Slides
- 5Manufacturer
- Half bath
- NoSaid on camera
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesSaid on camera
- Theater seating / recliners
- NoManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- NoManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 20 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- PrepManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Manufacturer
- Island
- YesManufacturer
Construction
- Frame
- Z-frame with black metal-wrap skirting to the frame; 101" wide-body frame; 21,000-lb Rhino Box pin box; drop-frame rear basement. I-beam size not published for 2027.Manufacturer
- Walls
- Hand-built all-aluminum superstructure on 16" centers or less; 3M-bonded sidewalls with hi-gloss 'true' gelcoat fiberglass exterior (not purchased laminated panels); true-gelcoat painted front cap with spray-foam insulationManufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- PlywoodManufacturer
- Insulation
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- BAL cableSaid on camera
- Axles
- 2Dealer listing
- Axle rating
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Tire load range
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Brakes
- Drum with ABSManufacturer
- Suspension
- Coil / rubber shearManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- NoManufacturer
- Furnace
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Solar (standard)
- 200 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 1,000 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- NoManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- NoManufacturer
What buyers said on the reviews
269 comments and replies read across 3 videos · 46% positive, 11% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸The raised front living room with wide steps, opposing sofas and a big fixed TV wall (not a televator); described as apartment-like
- ▸Full-time livability: storage, kitchen size, king bed suite; 'I want it for full time living' is the top 398FL comment
- ▸Decor and colour scheme (two-tone island, accent lighting, lit hutch)
- ▸Perceived value: 'great price' and 'for the money' vs Brinkley/Luxe/Riverstone
What they pushed back on
- ▸No half bath: guests must walk through the master to reach the only toilet (21 comments, 47 likes across the three videos; the #1 objection)
- ▸Forest River / Cedar Creek build quality and warranty reputation (7 comments)
- ▸No dishwasher shown on the 398FL (5 comments)
- ▸Double-sink vanity eating counter space (5 comments)
Complaints, in their words
“Beautiful! My only dislike is that I think the bathroom should always come before the bedroom so no one is wlk8ng through my room to go potty.”
26 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Really nice. Like the living area. As large as it is, it needs a 1/2 bath. Don’t like people going through the bedroom to the bathroom (which is very nice). 😊 I appreciate all the storage, and I agree with others who have said it looks like it would be great for full-time living.”
8 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“I love it. Only dislike is the double sink vanity.”
5 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Hanging closet needs curtains or some type of closure. The backlit is nice but a waste if clothes are covering it”
4 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
Praise, in their words
“I dont want this for recreation....I want it for full time living.....I love everything about it.......”
21 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Really nice. Like the living area. As large as it is, it needs a 1/2 bath. Don’t like people going through the bedroom to the bathroom (which is very nice). 😊 I appreciate all the storage, and I agree with others who have said it looks like it would be great for full-time living.”
8 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“It’s NOT just the living room it’s the ENTIRE place that’s awesome!!! It literally looks like a beautiful apartment!! The only thing that would take this over the top is a patio out of sliders where the kitchen table is. But regardless this is chefs kiss!!!”
6 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Top of my list wow and Hunter is an awesome tour guide of camper love you and wife together too”
4 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
Reviewer criticisms
“I don't know if that is standard or optional, so you want to make sure to check on that.”
The RV Hunter at 1:54 · open ↗
Cannot confirm whether the three ACs are standard or optional
“This is going to be your pass-through storage. Nothing too crazy”
The RV Hunter at 8:43 · open ↗
Front pass-through storage is unremarkable
“I do wish more people would be using that Nuvo system though. I like that one a little bit more.”
The RV Hunter at 9:54 · open ↗
Prefers the three-stage Nuvo water system over what Cedar Creek uses
“your short people out there are going to have a hard time getting it.”
The RV Hunter at 11:17 · open ↗
Overhead cabinets are hard to reach for shorter people
Videos this is based on
- GO BIG OR GO HOME?! The NEW Luxury GIANT! 2027 Cedar Creek 398FL · THATRVGIRL · 13K views · 35 comments read · 2027 Cedar Creek 398FL walkthrough
- RV OF THE YEAR CANDIDATE 💪 2027 Cedar Creek 398FL · The RV Hunter · 19K views · 100 comments read · 2027 Cedar Creek 398FL
- RV OF THE YEAR!? 2026 Cedar Creek 383FB | Front Bath Edition · The RV Hunter · 16K views · 134 comments read · 2026 Cedar Creek 383FB (sister floorplan)
Research notes
- Model year: the on-camera 398FL units and the manufacturer floorplan page are both 2027; the Cedar Creek features/options list used is the current 2027 list. The 2026 brochure PDF was used only for corroboration (it predates the 398FL, which is a new-for-2027 floorplan).
- Sister-floorplan caveat: entries tagged [383FB] in the analysis file come from a 2026 Cedar Creek 383FB. Only brand-level construction was taken from it: BAL cable slide mechanism, wood roof trusses, 16-in aluminum studding, real hardwood trim, 50-amp service, winterization bypass. None of its layout, seating, or appliance claims were applied to the 398FL.
- Forest River's desktop site (forestriverinc.com) returns HTTP 403 to fetchers; the mobile mirror (m.forestriverinc.com) serves identical spec and feature pages and is what is cited. No Cedar Creek 'construction' page exists for 2027; construction claims come from the features list and the 2026 brochure.
- Conflict - refrigerator: manufacturer standard is a 20 cu ft 110V residential fridge; both 398FL units on camera had the optional 12V refrigerator. Value recorded as the standard (residential); 12V is an option.
- Conflict - AC count: units on camera had three ACs; manufacturer standard is two 15k Coleman Mach 8 with the third an option / Champagne package item. Value recorded as 2 standard.
Headline: 43'1" · 15,059 lb empty · GVWR 18,000 lb
Luxe Regent 48FLBCurrent specs · Year unverified$343,422 factory-direct, as optioned48'0" · 24,200 lb empty▾
Luxe's Regent page and configurator do not state a model year. Factory-direct, semi-custom; 28,000 vs 29,999 GVWR differs by build.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸6'8" shorter and roughly 5,000 lb lighter than Luxe's estimate
- ▸A clearly specified base package rather than a build sheet
- ▸Attainable price tier; Luxe starts near $310k factory-direct
Why consider the Luxe Regent 48FLB
- ▸Dedicated front bonus room and one-and-a-half baths
- ▸Deep customization and a 5-year protection plan
- ▸3-in composite walls, MORryde IS on every axle, disc brakes, J-rated tires
- ▸Higher estimated cargo allowance
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Model year, chassis GVWR (28,000 vs 29,999) and the full selected build
- ▸Which options on a filmed unit are actually standard
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherOptional
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVNot verified
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useIncluded
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersIncluded
- 400 W solar standardNot verified
- Lithium batteryOptional
- Disc brakesIncluded
- Independent suspensionIncluded
- No cable slidesMixed (some cable)
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNo
- Dual-pane windowsIncluded
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyIncluded
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 48 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 24,200 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 29,999 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 5,442 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 5,799 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.25 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 100 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 80 galManufacturer
- Black
- 80 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 80 lbSaid on camera
Layout
- Slides
- 6Manufacturer
- Half bath
- YesManufacturer
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesSaid on camera
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- YesSaid on camera
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialSaid on camera
- Fridge size
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Dishwasher
- OptionalManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Said on camera
- Island
- YesSaid on camera
Construction
- Frame
- 12-in forged steel powder-coated I-beam main frame reinforced with 2x2-in stackable box tube; 14-in outriggers, doubled around slide-outs; dropped I-beam front for basement storageManufacturer
- Walls
- 3-in vacuum-bonded, polyurethane-laminated wall: high-gloss gel-coat fiberglass, Azdel composite layer, welded aluminum cage, 2.5-in graphite-infused closed-cell foam core; window/door openings framed and wood-filled; SoftTouch padded sidewalls and ceilingsManufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- 15 yrManufacturer
- Floor deck
- PlywoodManufacturer
- Insulation
- No R-values published (Luxe argues industry R-claims are inflated). Walls: 2.5-in graphite-infused closed-cell foam. Roof: high-density fiberglass with insulated A/C ductwork. Floor/chassis: triple-insulated enclosed underbelly with corrugated polycarbonate bottom board, double radiant/bubble barrier, double-layer high-density fiberglass up the frame rails, Darco wrap. Front/rear caps: radiant barrier plus two layers of fiberglass.Manufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Mixed (some cable)Said on camera
- Axles
- 3Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 8,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- JSaid on camera
- Brakes
- Disc, includedManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent, includedManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 3Said on camera
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- YesManufacturer
- Furnace
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Solar (standard)
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Inverter (standard)
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Lithium
- OptionalSaid on camera
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- IncludedManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 5 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- YesManufacturer
What buyers said on the reviews
393 comments and replies read across 4 videos · 12 from people who own one · 31% positive, 23% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸Brand halo: 'Ferrari/Lamborghini of travel trailers', 'best fifth wheel on the market', factory tour that converts skeptics
- ▸The hidden front-cap room (sewing room / 'bat cave') and what it could become
- ▸Kitchen scale and residential appliances; big bathroom; head height for tall people
- ▸Full-body paint exterior and (for some) the calm white/olive interiors
What they pushed back on
- ▸Price ($300k-$500k figures thrown around, plus $100k-$150k for a suitable truck); many say a Class A or bus is the better use of that money
- ▸Weight and size: needs an F-550/5500 or HDT, maxes a pickup, cannot go into many state/national parks; three 8k axles vs 29,999 GVWR math questioned
- ▸Missing 'obvious' items on a $300k+ unit: dishwasher, W/D (custom deletions), slide toppers, lithium, induction; customization upcharges
- ▸The hidden office does not work if one partner watches TV; no window; would rather have a bunk room or second bedroom
Owners speaking
“JD this is the second time I've picked up on your complaining about the glass in the Luxe doors. Just so you're aware, that is an option. You can get solid doors if you want. We are currently talking with a representative and are planning on building one for our retirement plan.”
23 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“Howdy from Texas! We have been looking at luxe for 6+ years. This is our next toy hauler we'll be ordering in the next few months. We've done our research several times over and luxe comes up the winner every time for our final rv purchase. The luxe people are impeccable. Once you see or take the factory tour you'll be convinced. No employees running around on a time crunch. They take their time and do it right. Thank you for the bid reaffirming our choice again!”
14 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“Love my 44FL”
2 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
Complaints, in their words
“The only thing I would have an issue with is the general maintenance on the generator that would be a pain.”
11 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“These are awesome coaches! If only I had enough truck to pull one! I’m liking your reviewing of these high end units. Definitely showing us all ranges of RVs out there!”
9 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“You have a great presentation Hunter! I don’t like the setup with the chairs and desk. I would prefer a booth for people to sleep on. I would not want a sewing room. I would want a bunk room. Just think if people could sleep in the bunk room, this would be a perfect full-time living Rv and sleep 10 people.”
7 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Those reaching for their wallets might want to think again. These can reach $300K easily and I've seen some advertised for much much more. Even a used one doesn't save much. A 2023 model was advertised for almost $260K. And I wouldn't bother with a pickup. You'd need a SportChassis. Those are literally mini semis with a Cummins engine with over 1,100 lbs/ft of torque!”
3 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
Praise, in their words
“If I won the lottery, it'd be a secret, but there'd be signs!”
43 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“Howdy from Texas! We have been looking at luxe for 6+ years. This is our next toy hauler we'll be ordering in the next few months. We've done our research several times over and luxe comes up the winner every time for our final rv purchase. The luxe people are impeccable. Once you see or take the factory tour you'll be convinced. No employees running around on a time crunch. They take their time and do it right. Thank you for the bid reaffirming our choice again!”
14 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“The full body paint 5th wheel RV looks awesome JD I enjoyed your videos”
9 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“What? Never heard of luxe? It’s the Ferrari/ Lamborghini of travel trailers.. not to many rv life full time YouTubers have these maybe non actually do to the price and there big”
7 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
Reviewer criticisms
“It's not going to be a full-on trifold sofa, but I'm sure you could get it”
The RV Hunter at 4:24 · open ↗
Sofas are jackknife, not full trifold (customer choice)
“But it's also a way, way different price point. I mean, I can tell you that.”
The RV Hunter at 7:12 · open ↗
Price is far above the Riverstone 425FO he compares it to (no figure given)
“I don't see any accommodations for a slide top protector, slide top awnings on this side.”
Big Truck Big RV at 10:51 · open ↗
No slide-topper awnings on the unit shown
“this isn't really going to prevent light transfer from coming into the room. It is a beautiful door though.”
Big Truck Big RV at 19:08 · open ↗
Frosted-glass bedroom door lets light through
Videos this is based on
- RV OF THE YEAR!? 2027 Luxe Regent 48FLB | Luxury Edition · The RV Hunter · 29K views · 88 comments read · 2027 Luxe Regent 48FLB
- ULTIMATE RV! LUXE LUXURY FIFTH WHEEL · Big Truck Big RV · 101K views · 157 comments read · Luxe Regent, Jan 2026
- HOLY BAT CAVE?! The MOST EXCLUSIVE RV EVER?! Luxe Regent 48FLB · THATRVGIRL · 52K views · 74 comments read · Luxe Regent 48FLB, Jul 2026
- INCREDIBLE LUXE Luxury RV! Must see inside! · Big Truck Big RV · 42K views · 74 comments read · Luxe Regent, Jan 2026
Research notes
- Manufacturer domain is luxefifthwheel.com (singular); luxefifthwheels.com does not resolve. There is no dedicated 48FLB spec page; specs come from the 48FLB tab of the Regent product page, the online builder, and the in-production 48FLB unit #10732 listing.
- GVWR conflict: Regent page 48FLB tab and builder = 29,999; in-production 48FLB #10732 = 28,000; BTBRV 48FLB = 25,000-26,000 'depending on configuration'; RV Hunter = 29,999. The Regent page's 49RH tab shows 28,000 while BTBRV quoted 29,999 for the 49R, so the two floorplans' GVWRs may be swapped on the site. Est. UVW (24,200) and hitch (5,442) are labelled estimates; RV Hunter's site warns Regent weights vary by build.
- Roof warranty conflict: manufacturer construction page says 15-year SuperFlex membrane warranty; a Luxe rep told BTBRV 'lifetime'. Manufacturer figure used.
- Tire load range conflict: advantages page says H-rated 17.5-in; BTBRV reads J and ~6,005 lb/tire off the sidewall of the 48FLB. Transcript used for the unit shown.
- Standard kitchen is an induction cooktop; a residential range/oven is an extra-cost option (24-in $1,645, 30-in $2,800). Both 48FLBs filmed had residential ranges (36-in GE Profile on BTBRV's), so oven is recorded as 'no' (not standard).
Headline: 48'0" · 24,200 lb empty · GVWR 29,999 lb
Keystone Montana 3800FL2026 · 2027 listed$122,995 dealer street42'7" · 16,750 lb empty▾
Keystone's 2026 3800FL page; the 2027 lineup lists it with a 2026 drawing asset.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸1'3" shorter with more cargo allowance
- ▸Independent suspension, disc brakes and dual panes standard
- ▸Documented battery and inverter equipment
Why consider the Montana 3800FL
- ▸Lower shipping weight (16,750 lb)
- ▸One-and-a-half baths, opposing sofas, desk and dinette
- ▸Front and rear storage trays; 20 cu ft 12V fridge
- ▸5-year structural warranty; three ACs on the current equipment page
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Certified GVWR (not published) and the current-year drawing
- ▸Solar, battery and sofa-sleeper configuration
- ▸Optional vs standard icons on Keystone's page
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherNo
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useIncluded
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersIncluded
- 400 W solar standardNo
- Lithium batteryOptional
- Disc brakesNo
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesMixed (some cable)
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNo
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyNo
Not published by the maker: floor.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 42.58 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 16,750 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 19,490 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,490 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 2,740 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.33 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 77 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 100 galManufacturer
- Black
- 100 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 80 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Manufacturer
- Half bath
- YesSaid on camera
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesSaid on camera
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedSaid on camera
- Desk or office use
- YesManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- 12VManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 20 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- NoneManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Manufacturer
- Island
- YesManufacturer
Construction
- Frame
- 12-in I-beam with Z-frame technology; drop frame; Keystone chassis with rolled one-piece I-beams, full-width outriggers, stamped steel crossmembers, MaxTurn bent-tube nose; 'frame flipper' build methodManufacturer
- Walls
- 2-in thick laminated sidewalls, composite-backed high-gloss fiberglass exterior; insulated rear wallManufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Floor deck
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Insulation
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Mixed (some cable)Manufacturer
- Axles
- 2Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 8,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Drum with ABSManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 3Said on camera
- AC capacity
- 18000, 13500, 13500Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- YesManufacturer
- Furnace
- 35,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 220 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 0 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- OptionalManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 5 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- NoManufacturer
What buyers said on the reviews
268 comments and replies read across 2 videos · 22 from people who own one · 20% positive, 22% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸Wide body and taller slides finally arriving on Montana
- ▸The 3800FL floorplan itself (several 'want one' comments, one Brinkley owner would trade)
- ▸Brand heritage and 'feels like home' interior; long-term owners with few problems
- ▸Rack-and-pinion / SlimRack slides instead of Schwintek or BAL
What they pushed back on
- ▸Axle capacity margin on 8k tandems for a 42-ft 7-in, 16,700 lb dry unit (and SRW one-ton truck limits)
- ▸Wood-based construction: OSB decking, luan skins with no Azdel, wood trusses, roof staples
- ▸Post-purchase quality and Keystone support (owner reports of failed slides, weak rear heat, roof panels, leaks)
- ▸Outdated rooftop HVAC; want mini-split, heat pumps or matched Chill Cubes
Owners speaking
“Hi Josh, I always appreciate factory tours of Montana 5th Wheels, thank you! We own a 2018 Montana Model 3720RL that came with the Norcold 2118 fridge. We do a lot of boondocking on our Canadian snowbird trips to southern Arizona. During our 2021/2022 trip we boondocked 96 days and in 2022/2023 99 days so alot of drycamping. I did alot of work on the back side of the Norcold 2118 to get better cooling efficiency which has really helped being how we operate the fridge on propane during our boondocking. We may eventually convert the fridge to the 12 volt compressor system from JC.”
6 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Got rid of our nightmare Alliance for a Montana. Figured as many and for as long as they've sold they must be doing something right. Several camping trips later and no problems! Sure they will come but none yet which is totally not our experience with the last rig. This video helped us make our decision. Thanks a bunch!!!”
3 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Yes, sir, I bought a Montana due to your video. Thank you, brother 😮”
2 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
Complaints, in their words
“I still truly don't understand why rvs are still using such outdated ac systems. A mini split uses half of the electricity and is massively more efficient.”
23 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Montana is one of the few high-end 5thWs which does not have tankless water heaters; instead, going with extra large water heater tanks (e.g. 16 or 18 gallons). Could you please explain why Keystone went this route with its top-of-the-line model? It seems contrary to Montana's high standards.”
6 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Awesome unit. You need to highlight the fact you are using what looks like slim rack 2 on your smaller slides and not BAL or shwintek!!! Big selling point for me and I’m sure others! You are pushing the limits of a SRW 1 tons though with these redesigns. Ever considered a third axle?”
3 likes · a viewer on Keystone RV · open ↗
“You spent a couple minutes showing the use of luan and not Azdel. A year ago I had a conversation with a VP from one of the manufacturers who claimed while Azdel has some benefits, luan is still superior in larger side walls and screw retention. He went on to say the main reason Azdel has suddenly become more widely used is due to cost and supply issues with luan. (His units are Azdel on both wall sides.) Is this something you could do a video on and get to the truth?”
3 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
Praise, in their words
“So glad you guys went wide body finally!!”
4 likes · a viewer on Keystone RV · open ↗
“Josh, this is a most outstanding video, this montana is 1 of 2 of my most favorite rigs on the planet! Thank you JW AND BISHES!!! BATTERY DIED.”
4 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“that painted black grey blue and white is just a gorgeous combo. Put it right up there with some of the LUXE line stuff”
4 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Awesome, I love this floor plan and I want one.”
3 likes · a viewer on Keystone RV · open ↗
Reviewer criticisms
“they're not doing any sort of asdel at the time of this filming”
Josh the RV Nerd at 17:54 · open ↗
No Azdel in sidewalls; double luan instead, and Josh admits this may not age well
“you look at this and you see OSB and a lot of people say oh no thank you”
Josh the RV Nerd at 5:54 · open ↗
OSB floor decking draws skepticism, which Josh pre-empts
“at a thinner point in the wall like right here they were seeing some stress cracks”
Josh the RV Nerd at 17:06 · open ↗
Sidewall stress cracks occurred on prior builds (upper deck, Schwintek era) years after warranty
“floor flush slides aren't actually totally floor flush”
Josh the RV Nerd at 19:07 · open ↗
Floor-flush slides are not fully flush
Videos this is based on
- Tour the 2026 Keystone Montana 3800FL · Keystone RV · 14K views · 32 comments read · 2026 Montana 3800FL manufacturer tour
- Factory Tour for the Most Popular Fifth Wheel in History! ► Keystone Montana RVs · Josh the RV Nerd · 84K views · 236 comments read · Josh's channel · Keystone Montana factory tour (2023), build-quality proxy
Research notes
- Keystone's 3800FL page (model year 2026) supplies weights, tanks, tires and the brand-wide standards/options list; standard-vs-optional flags were read from the page's feature icons.
- GVWR is not printed by Keystone; 19,490 is shipping weight + carrying capacity. General RV's 2027 listing says 19,000 and the Keystone presenter said 'just over 19.5' - scorer should treat GVWR as ~19.0-19.5k.
- p8qMXL28Jk8 is a July 2023 factory tour of the PRE-wide-body Montana. Its construction claims (double luan/no Azdel, Dynaspan OSB decks, wood roof trusses, Road Armor suspension, 16-gal tank water heater) are NOT carried into structure fields unless Keystone's 2026 pages confirm them; conflicts are noted per field. Confirmed carry-overs: 2-in walls, PEX plumbing, rack-and-pinion main slides.
- Keystone 2026 wording 'composite backed' sidewalls conflicts with the 2023 tour's explicit 'no Azdel'; azdel_or_composite=yes rests solely on Keystone's phrase.
- A/C count: transcript shows three units on the 3800FL and Keystone's list references 2nd and 3rd A/Cs, but both dealer listings total 31,500 BTU (18K+13.5K = two units). Verify on the build sheet.
Headline: 42'7" · 16,750 lb empty · GVWR 19,490 lb
Jayco North Point 382FLRB2026 · Previous model year$116,495 dealer street43'10" · 15,470 lb empty▾
The 382FLRB is a 2026 floorplan; Jayco replaces it with a 383FLRB for 2027 (specs pending). Do not mix the two.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸2'6" shorter with more cargo allowance
- ▸Larger fresh capacity
- ▸Specified chassis and electrical package
Why consider the North Point 382FLRB
- ▸Lower published empty weight
- ▸Second toilet, two tri-fold sofas and an exterior kitchen
- ▸21 cu ft residential fridge; rack-and-pinion slides
- ▸Remaining 2026 units can be quoted on their own terms
Confirm before you buy
- ▸That the unit is a 2026 382FLRB, not the new 2027 383FLRB
- ▸The published 'sleeps up to 9' figure
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherNot verified
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVNot verified
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useNo
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardIncluded
- Lithium batteryNo
- Disc brakesOptional
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesIncluded
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenIncluded
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inNo
- Full-time-rated warrantyNot verified
Not published by the maker: axles tires.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 43.83 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 15,470 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 17,995 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,045 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 2,525 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.42 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 75 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 82.50 galManufacturer
- Black
- 74 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 120 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Dealer listing
- Half bath
- YesSaid on camera
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesSaid on camera
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedSaid on camera
- Desk or office use
- NoSaid on camera
- Bath reachable with slides in
- NoSaid on camera
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 21 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- Not verifiedManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Said on camera
- Island
- YesSaid on camera
Construction
- Frame
- 12 in. structural steel I-beam with 8 or 10 in. 'monster beam' steel drop frame; skirt-metal enclosed drop frame; tubular-steel upper deck with large header beam (transcript)Manufacturer
- Walls
- Stronghold VBL aluminum-framed, vacuum-bond laminated, gel-coated fiberglass exterior walls (incl. rear wall and slide end walls); walls mounted on top of outriggers rather than screwed to frame side (transcript)Manufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- PlywoodManufacturer
- Insulation
- R-values not published. Climate Shield Zero-Degree Tested: double-layer fiberglass batt insulation (roof and floor), 2 in. block foam and reflective foil, 40K BTU furnace, fully enclosed heated (ducted) underbelly. Creator reply: rated/tested 0-100 F.Manufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Rack-and-pinionSaid on camera
- Axles
- 2Dealer listing
- Axle rating
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Disc optional; drum standardManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- NoManufacturer
- Furnace
- 40,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 400 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 1,800 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- NoManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 2 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 3 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- Not verifiedManufacturer
What buyers said on the reviews
486 comments and replies read across 2 videos · 43 from people who own one · 14% positive, 6% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸The front-living floorplan itself: separated living/kitchen/bedroom zones, huge windows, TV visible from every seat (25 comments)
- ▸Storage: three pass-through bays plus interior storage; owners of the 2025 call it 'great storage inside and out'
- ▸Outdoor kitchen / Halo griddle on a luxury non-bunkhouse unit
- ▸Higher-grade GE appliances and a real-size oven ('Anything not ultimately made by Lippert')
What they pushed back on
- ▸Size, 2,970 lb hitch weight and the dually requirement; several say they would buy if it were smaller
- ▸Half bath right off the kitchen; strong pull for a laundry/pantry option in that space (top-liked walkthrough comment is about W/D)
- ▸No workable desk/office; sofas cannot convert and recliners occupy the nose
- ▸Guest sleeping on two folding hide-a-beds that do not join; slanted upper-deck bed joke
Owners speaking
“This was very interesting. It makes me glad we bought a 2020 32RLTS Pinnacle.”
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“Sure hope that was my 382 being built.”
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“Wow we actually have a 382FLRB due to be completed in the next week, maybe one of those is ours!”
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Complaints, in their words
“Its hard to believe that 98% of people who buy one of these wouldn't add the stack-able washer/dryer. Why on earth wouldn't you. Having to take your laundry somewhere else is one of the biggest pain in the rear ends there is when it comes to RV life.”
11 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“Antoine else notice the broken roof truss at 13:50at the rear air opening”
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“Looking at your video, you said leave a comment. Looks like that frame is a lot of spot welding instead of fully welded each piece steals put on got a little spot weld. It should be full length weld marks to every piece that’s put on not spotted.”
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“Yah, I was wondering the same thing. When does that get fixed? And how did it get this far?”
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Praise, in their words
“That's so cool to actually see how much work goes into producing a RV”
12 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“I think this is a fantastic floor plan! I love this model. Your videos might be long, but they are informative packed and fun, Josh. 😃”
7 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“This was very interesting. It makes me glad we bought a 2020 32RLTS Pinnacle.”
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“@6:17 you are INSANE! 😂 I'm laughing so hard!!😂😅💀💀💀 This is beautiful, I would be tempted to buy land and park it permanently.”
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Reviewer criticisms
“Kitchen. We have very limited kitchen counter space.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 7:57 · open ↗
Very limited kitchen counter space
“These sofas are not actually normal sofas. You see how the slide floor stops a good 6 in before the sofa goes down.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 4:48 · open ↗
Sofas cannot become a desk; no leg room due to upper-deck structure
“These hideabeds by default the legs don't quite stick down far enough.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 6:34 · open ↗
Hide-a-bed legs ship too short and beds do not join in the widebody
“there's the space here to do it, but they don't offer that.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 9:25 · open ↗
Half bath off the kitchen puts some buyers off; no pantry/laundry alternative offered
Videos this is based on
- 2026 North Point 382FLRB Front Living Fifth Wheel · Josh the RV Nerd · 27K views · 66 comments read · Josh's channel · 2026 North Point 382FLRB walkthrough
- (Part 1 of 4) Jayco RVs Factory Tour! · Josh the RV Nerd · 82K views · 420 comments read · Josh's channel · Jayco factory tour pt 1 (2021), build-quality proxy
Research notes
- Model year: on-camera unit and all manufacturer specs are 2026. The 2027 North Point lineup drops the 382FLRB in favor of a 383FLRB whose specs/pricing are 'coming soon' on jayco.com (2026-09-08); 2027 also restructures packages (Luxury Plus, Overlander I standard, 16 in. H-rated tires 'available', ABS/TPMS 'available'), so do not mix 2027 package content into this sheet.
- WEIGHT CONFLICT: jayco.com 2026 spec page and brochure list UVW 15,470 / hitch 3,045 / CCC 2,525 lb; the video description (Bish's Weights & Measures) and both dealer listings say 15,280 / 2,970 / 2,715 lb. GVWR 17,995 agrees everywhere. Manufacturer values used; the dealer set may be a 2025 carry-over.
- PRICE: jayco.com does not publish a 382FLRB MSRP; its 'Starting at $117,600' is the 2026 North Point line base. MSRP $151,036 and sale $116,495 are from Bish's RV (Coldwater MI), the dealer that produced the walkthrough. Other dealers reportedly list MSRPs up to ~$174k (not fetched).
- Package structure matters for standard-vs-option: Jayco lists the Customer Value Package, 5 Star Handling Package and Luxury Package as 'Mandatory', so their contents (dual 15K A/C, tankless heater, king bed, Overlander 2 solar 400W + 1800W inverter, MORryde CRE-3000 + pin box, Dexter ABS/Tow Assist, 17.5 in. H tires, 6-pt hydraulic leveling, 2nd awning, fireplace, GE 21 cu ft fridge, central vac, NuvoH2O, JAYCOMMAND, W/D prep) are treated as standard.
- Slide count (5) and axle count (2) come from dealer listings only; Jayco does not publish them and neither is spoken on camera. Standard axle rating is not published.
Headline: 43'10" · 15,470 lb empty · GVWR 17,995 lb
Alliance Paradigm 385FL2027 listing · Transition note$99,900 dealer street41'4" · 15,636 lb empty▾
Alliance's 385FL page serves 2027 content; the linked 2027 brochure depicts a 386FL. Brochure-only equipment is not applied here.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸Same 41'4" length with more cargo allowance
- ▸Explicit base battery and inverter specs
- ▸Disc brakes standard; Paradigm's are optional with MORryde IS
Why consider the Paradigm 385FL
- ▸Lower published empty weight (15,636 vs 18,750 lb)
- ▸One-and-a-half baths and two sleeper sofas
- ▸Almost the same fresh capacity (98 vs 100 gal)
- ▸Three 18K ACs and a PVC roof with lifetime warranty
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Whether the available 2027 unit is a 385FL or 386FL
- ▸Brochure equipment (heat pumps, 54K AC total) applies only once Alliance confirms it for the 385FL
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherPrep
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useIncluded
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersIncluded
- 400 W solar standardIncluded
- Lithium batteryOptional
- Disc brakesNo
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesIncluded
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNo
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inIncluded
- Full-time-rated warrantyNot verified
Not published by the maker: floor.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 41.33 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 15,636 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 19,000 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 2,952 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 3,364 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.46 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 98 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 106 galManufacturer
- Black
- 53 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 60 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Video description
- Half bath
- YesManufacturer
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesManufacturer
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- YesManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- YesSaid on camera
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- 12VManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 19 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- PrepManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Said on camera
- Island
- YesManufacturer
Construction
- Frame
- Alliance Benchmark 101-in wide-body drop-frame steel chassis; fresh-tank reinforcement; enclosed/encapsulated skirt metal. I-beam size not published.Manufacturer
- Walls
- Aluminum-framed laminated sidewalls with composite inner and outer layers ('Double Sided Composite Sidewalls'), composite-backed high-gloss fiberglass exterior, block foam insulation; no wood. 2 in thick per transcript.Manufacturer
- Roof
- PVCManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Insulation
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- HydraulicManufacturer
- Axles
- 2Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 8,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Drum with ABSManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 3Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 18000, 18000, 18000Said on camera
- Heat pump
- NoManufacturer
- Furnace
- 40,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 400 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 0 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- OptionalManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 3 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- Not verifiedNot verified
What buyers said on the reviews
6 comments and replies read across 1 video · 50% positive, 17% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸Spaciousness and comfort of the front living room
- ▸Perceived build reputation ('best built in the industry')
- ▸Overall look ('Beautiful!'); one shopper couple put it at #1 on their list
What they pushed back on
- ▸Floorplan sameness across the industry and the half bath being placed in the kitchen
- ▸Whether disc brakes are standard (they are not; drum ABS standard, disc only with MORryde IS option)
Complaints, in their words
“Yawn. Same floorplan we've seen a gazillion times over. STOP putting the half bath in the damn kitchen, figure it out”
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Praise, in their words
Videos this is based on
- 2026 Paradigm 385FL Tour: Luxury Front Living Fifth Wheel | Five Slide-Outs | Rear Bath · Alliance RV · 3.9K views · 6 comments read · 2026 Paradigm 385FL manufacturer tour
Research notes
- Model-year caveat: the alliancerv.com floorplan URL contains '2026' but the page currently renders 2027 content (title, MSRP $151,772, datasheet year 2027). Length, height, dry weight, GVWR, hitch weight and tank sizes are identical between the 2027 page and the 2026 brochure.
- 2027 changes vs 2026 (not applied to this 2026 spec): heat pumps standard on all three ACs, ACs listed as 18K Chill Cubes, dovetail drawers, waterfall-edge countertops, low-profile king bed slide, composite entry step replaces MORryde Step Above, generator option becomes NPS 6 KW, 'SolarMax+' replaces Super Solar Plus with 1,200 Ah lithium and dual 5,000 W Quattro inverters, new paint colors.
- Conflict: axle rating. Manufacturer standard list and transcript say Curt 8,000 lb; the same options doc offers '8K Axles' as an option and Bish's listing shows Dexter 7,000 lb. Recorded 8,000 (manufacturer); 2 x 8,000 = 16,000 lb axle capacity against a 19,000 lb GVWR.
- Conflict: AC BTU. Transcript says 3 x 18,000 BTU Furrion Chill Cube; 2026 manufacturer list and dealers say 40,500 BTU total (3 x 13,500). Recorded transcript value with note.
- Conflict: dry weight. Manufacturer 15,636; transcript 15,600 (rounded); dealers 15,487 and 15,812.
Headline: 41'4" · 15,636 lb empty · GVWR 19,000 lb
Jayco Pinnacle 39FLOK2027$126,495 dealer street44'6" · 15,920 lb empty▾
Jayco's 2027 39FLOK page; 2026 values noted where they differ.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸Shorter, with more cargo allowance
- ▸3,000 W inverter and 200 Ah lithium standard
- ▸10K independent suspension and disc brakes standard; Pinnacle's are an $11,843 option
Why consider the Pinnacle 39FLOK
- ▸A second toilet and two tri-fold sofas
- ▸21 cu ft fridge, exterior kitchen and dishwasher in the 2027 baseline
- ▸The only hard street price in the class near $120k to $126k
- ▸Full-time-rated 2 + 3 year warranty
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Cost of IS, discs, dual panes, third AC and paint on the actual quote
- ▸The dishwasher: listed standard for 2027, called optional in the overview
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherIncluded
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useNo
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardIncluded
- Lithium batteryNot verified
- Disc brakesNo
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesNot verified
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenIncluded
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyIncluded
Not published by the maker: axles tires, slide mechanism.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 44.50 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 15,920 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 18,800 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,085 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 2,880 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.25 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 75 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 82.50 galManufacturer
- Black
- 74 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 120 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Said on camera
- Half bath
- YesSaid on camera
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesManufacturer
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- NoManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 21 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- IncludedManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Said on camera
- Island
- YesSaid on camera
Construction
- Frame
- 12 in. structural steel I-beam frame with 8 in. or 10 in. Monster Beam steel drop-frame; 102 in. wide-body; 3,000 lb rear tow hitch with 4-way pinManufacturer
- Walls
- Stronghold VBL aluminum-framed, vacuum-bond laminated gel-coated fiberglass exterior walls (high-gloss gel coat via Luxury Package); 2 in. block foam insulation with reflective foil; interior backer (Azdel/luan) not publishedManufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- PlywoodManufacturer
- Insulation
- R-values not published. Climate Shield: double-layer fiberglass batt insulation (roof and floor); 2 in. block foam with reflective foil (walls); radiant barrier; 120V heat blankets on all tanks; 12V heat tape on fresh lineManufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Axles
- 2Dealer listing
- Axle rating
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Drum with ABSManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- YesManufacturer
- Furnace
- 40,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 400 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 1,800 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 2 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 3 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- YesSaid on camera
What buyers said on the reviews
56 comments and replies read across 2 videos · 2 from people who own one · 32% positive, 21% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸The floor plan itself: front living with three sofas, private rear bedroom and full bath, half bath for guests; 'reminds me of a home or condo'
- ▸Sheer size and storage; the coach reads as an apartment
- ▸Outdoor kitchen (grill, fridge, plumbed sink, TV, speakers)
- ▸Overall looks with full body paint; 'not your mother's Jayco'
What they pushed back on
- ▸Jayco fit-and-finish and QC: loose parts on delivery, molding already separating, sticky TV lift, and memories of older Pinnacle failures
- ▸Only two axles under a 44-ft, 18,800-lb GVWR coach
- ▸Shower skylight/head height for tall users
- ▸TV placement walling off kitchen from living room; only one seat with a good view
Owners speaking
“Jacob makes a beautiful trailer but have they learned how to keep things tight I bought one and everything was left loose”
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“Yeah but what about the quality of this supposed Stacy Stewart collection does the sofas pill and Flake all over the whole trailer like the old pleather sofas because of 2017 Pinnacle my buddy had to trim fell off the walls and the sofas peeled and had shity plumbing and the appliances were garbage and the air conditioner went out several times my question is is the quality gotten any better?”
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Complaints, in their words
“44 feet long and only two axles?? That sounds dangerous”
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“No black RV’s - the under body is white -- ever ding is gonna show - these things taking a beating going down the road. The storage is nice and also a pain in the A** -high end? where’s the pull out trays? The loveseat is the only good tv viewing -- wth! and those 2 people will also brake an ankle or hip with one misstep. That master toilet is not a PPP -- take out the extra sink and it’s perfect except for the TP holder. I don’t understand 2 sink in an RV master. the % of time both people will be in there showering and washing up is minimal.”
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“❤. Wow another huge trailer. Nice but to big for me.”
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“45 foot rig and you got short changed in coffee bar room. Unacceptable. Lol.”
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Praise, in their words
“Overall one of Jayco’s best floor plans they do have a Northpoint version that is great too.”
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“Nice layout”
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“Oh Heck Yeah that's a Great RV 🇺🇲🤘🤠🤘🇺🇲”
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“Impressive”
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Reviewer criticisms
“with this slide out being right here, you really lose a lot of your awning space.”
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Door-side slide takes away awning/patio space
“It's kind of tucked up under here, and it's too far back from the hitch. So, you cannot see your hitch and truck”
Matt's RV Reviews at 23:43 · open ↗
Auto-leveling controls too far back from hitch to watch hookup
“But not enough head height. That's crazy.”
Matt's RV Reviews at 21:15 · open ↗
Shower skylight misplaced; fails head height for tall users
“they just put the skylight in the wrong spot.”
Matt's RV Reviews at 21:33 · open ↗
Skylight, not the shower, is the fail
Videos this is based on
- PINNACLE OF EXCELLENCE?! Jayco Just Went ALL IN?! 39FLOK · THATRVGIRL · 23K views · 23 comments read · Pinnacle 39FLOK walkthrough
- 2026 Jayco Pinnacle 39FLOK | LUXURY Front Living Fifth Wheel! · Matt's RV Reviews · 19K views · 33 comments read · 2026 Pinnacle 39FLOK
Research notes
- Model year: primary video is a 2027, extra video a 2026. Jayco publishes both years; the 2027 page is the value source where they differ (UVW 15,920 vs 15,870; hitch 3,085 vs 3,095; CCC 2,880 vs 2,930; width 8'6" vs 8'5").
- Length conflict: Jayco 2027 page says 42'11" while the 2026 page (44'6"), both reviewers (44'9" and 44'7") and RV Guide (44.5) agree on roughly 44.5 ft; 44.5 used.
- Pricing conflict: on-camera MSRP $185,878 and sale $126,495 are for stock T141453, a different 2026 unit at the same dealer, not the unit toured. Jayco base MSRP is $128,118 (2026, before mandatory packages) / $163,118 (2027). Jayco Factory Direct shows a comparably equipped 2026 at $176,697 MSRP / $119,852 sale.
- Standard vs option: Jayco sells the Pinnacle with three mandatory packages (Customer Value $4,500, Luxury $12,450, 5 Star Handling $5,993), so items in those packages are treated as standard. Items on the units toured that are true options: full body paint, 3rd A/C, generator prep, dual pane windows (if fitted).
- Suspension field is 'independent_option': standard gear is MORryde LRE4000 rubberized equalizer with leaf springs, Dexter ABS drum brakes; MORryde IS with 8K axles and disc brakes is an $11,843 option and was not on either unit toured.
Headline: 44'6" · 15,920 lb empty · GVWR 18,800 lb
Redwood RW-420FL (formerly 4200FL)Current specs · Year unverified$154,999 dealer street45'3" · 17,722 lb empty▾
CrossRoads' current 420FL page does not state a model year; construction detail is from the 2025 Redwood training manual.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸Almost four feet shorter
- ▸More cargo allowance (4,750 vs 3,278 lb)
- ▸Clearer current documentation of electrical, HVAC and running gear
Why consider the Redwood 420FL
- ▸Six slides, two front sofas, 72 x 80 king and a rear full bath
- ▸Dishwasher, washer/dryer, wine fridge and central vac in the standard list
- ▸Lower published empty weight; triple 7K axles cover its full GVWR
- ▸Full-timer-rated 2 + 3 year warranty
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Model year and current order sheet; the official site mixes equipment generations
- ▸Water heater (tankless vs 12 gal) and laundry as delivered
Equipment
- Half bathNo
- DishwasherIncluded
- Washer / dryerIncluded
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useIncluded
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardNo
- Lithium batteryNot verified
- Disc brakesNo
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesIncluded
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNot verified
- Dual-pane windowsIncluded
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyIncluded
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 45.25 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 17,722 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 21,000 lbDealer listing
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,710 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 3,278 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.50 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 54 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 88 galManufacturer
- Black
- 44 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 60 lbDealer listing
Layout
- Slides
- 6Dealer listing
- Half bath
- NoSaid on camera
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesDealer listing
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- YesManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialSaid on camera
- Fridge size
- 18 cu ftDealer listing
- Dishwasher
- IncludedSaid on camera
- Washer / dryer
- InstalledSaid on camera
- Range burners
- 4Said on camera
- Island
- YesDealer listing
Construction
- Frame
- F.I.T. 3.0 chassis: Falcon 12-inch I-beam main rails, 10-inch I-beam drop section, 8-inch header, crawl-space technology, MORryde X-Factor crossmemberManufacturer
- Walls
- Laminated sidewall: 2.5-inch welded aluminum studs with aluminum-framed openings and aluminum slide headers, R-7 block foam, luan backer, Talon/Falcon Z-65 gel-coat sheet fiberglass exterior (not FRP)Manufacturer
- Roof
- TPOManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- CompositeManufacturer
- Insulation
- Sidewalls R-7 block foam; roof R-7 fiberglass batt plus radiant foil; floors layered fiberglass batt plus Thermo-foil. No whole-assembly R-values published ('No vague / subjective R-values' - Redwood publishes temperature-test results instead).Manufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- HydraulicManufacturer
- Axles
- 3Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 7,000 lb eachSaid on camera
- Tire load range
- HSaid on camera
- Brakes
- DrumManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedSaid on camera
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Dealer listing
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Dealer listing
- Heat pump
- YesDealer listing
- Furnace
- 35,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 0 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 2,000 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- IncludedManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 2 yrSaid on camera
- Structural warranty
- 3 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- YesSaid on camera
What buyers said on the reviews
2 comments and replies read across 1 video · 1 from people who own one · 50% positive, 0% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸Appearance of the coach (one commenter: beautiful RV).
- ▸Dealer/salesperson support after the sale (one Redwood 412GK owner).
What they pushed back on
- ▸Whether the windows are dual pane (asked, not answered).
Owners speaking
“Good man right there purchased a2026 412gk he was very informative even after purchase still helping with little things thanks Robert”
0 likes · a viewer on CrossRoads RV · open ↗
Videos this is based on
- Redwood RW-420FL Walkthrough · CrossRoads RV · 5.1K views · 2 comments read · RW-420FL manufacturer walkthrough
Research notes
- Model year: the crossroadsrv.com floorplan page prints no year, but its numbers (45'3", 17,722 lbs, 3,710 hitch, 3,278 CCC, 54/88/44 tanks, $209,434) match the RVUSA 2026 guide and every 2026 dealer listing. Construction detail is from the 2025 Redwood training manual, the newest CrossRoads publishes; the 2026 RVUSA standards list was used where it differs.
- 2025-manual vs 2026-list differences: suspension MORryde CRE 3000 -> LRE 4100; three 15K A/Cs standard -> two standard with a third optional; Suburban 60K tankless water heater -> '12 Gallon DSI Water Heater' listed (the unit on camera has a tankless, so tankless is recorded); Go Power solar prep -> Zamp solar prep.
- Axle rating conflict: rep says 7,000-lb axles on this unit and RVBusiness quotes triple 7K Dexter axles; the RVUSA 2026 chassis list says 'Falcon 8,000 lb. Axles' while the same page lists 'EZ Lube Dexter Axles'. 3 x 7,000 = 21,000 matches the published GVWR, so 7,000 is recorded.
- GVWR (21,000) and slide count (6) are not printed on the manufacturer floorplan page; they come from the RVUSA 2026 literature guide, whose other figures match the manufacturer exactly. 21,000 also equals manufacturer UVW 17,722 + CCC 3,278.
- Dealer listings disagree with the manufacturer on weights and tanks (General RV: 17,672 UVW, 19,000 GVWR, 2,794 hitch, 50/76/38 tanks; RVingPlanet unit: 44'10", 16,206 UVW, 3,214 hitch, 2 axles). These look like stale or template data and were used only for price, interior height and LP.
Headline: 45'3" · 17,722 lb empty · GVWR 21,000 lb
Forest River Riverstone Legacy 45FLE2027$169,218 dealer street44'11" · 19,771 lb empty▾
Forest River's 2027 45FLE page; debuted September 2026.
Why consider the Model R
- ▸3'7" shorter and about 1,000 lb lighter on published figures
- ▸Independent suspension and disc brakes standard
- ▸100 gal fresh vs 79 gal
Why consider the Riverstone 45FLE
- ▸Six slides and a very large sofa-lined front living room
- ▸Dishwasher and washer/dryer installed in the mandatory package
- ▸Dual-pane windows included; 3-in walls
- ▸Triple axle; 4,229 lb cargo allowance
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Whether the quote includes the Legacy package, third AC, IS or disc upgrades
- ▸Slide mechanism by slide
- ▸The 425FO sister floorplan adds a front office if remote work matters
Equipment
- Half bathNo
- DishwasherIncluded
- Washer / dryerIncluded
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVIncluded
- Recliners / theater seatingNo
- Sleeper sofaNo
- Desk / office useNo
- King bedIncluded
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardNo
- Lithium batteryOptional
- Disc brakesOptional
- Independent suspensionOptional
- No cable slidesMixed (some cable)
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNo
- Dual-pane windowsIncluded
- Bath reachable with slides inNot verified
- Full-time-rated warrantyNo
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 44.92 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 19,771 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 24,000 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,820 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 4,229 lbManufacturer
- Height
- 13.42 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 79 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 100 galManufacturer
- Black
- 50 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 80 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 6Said on camera
- Half bath
- NoSaid on camera
- King bed
- IncludedManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- NoSaid on camera
- Theater seating / recliners
- NoSaid on camera
- Desk or office use
- NoSaid on camera
- Bath reachable with slides in
- Not verifiedNot verified
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- ResidentialManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 18 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- IncludedManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- InstalledManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Manufacturer
- Island
- YesSaid on camera
Construction
- Frame
- Steel I-beam frame: 12-in main I-beam cradled by a second 12-in beam, steel cage wrapping the front section, front tubing upgraded for 2027. Forest River publishes no frame specification.Said on camera
- Walls
- 3-in hung fiberglass wall ('3" Hung Glass Exterior Walls with High Gloss Gel Coat Exterior') with batten insulation; BTBRV describes a hung wall with Azdel composite sidewall (FOW3JcowaNg@57, @360).Manufacturer
- Roof
- FiberglassSaid on camera
- Roof warranty
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Floor deck
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Insulation
- Batten insulation in side walls, slideouts, ceiling and floors; no R-values published.Manufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesSaid on camera
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Mixed (some cable)Manufacturer
- Axles
- 3Said on camera
- Axle rating
- 7,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Disc optional; drum standardManufacturer
- Suspension
- Independent optionalManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- YesManufacturer
- Furnace
- 40,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 200 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- 2,000 WManufacturer
- Lithium
- OptionalManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- IncludedManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- NoManufacturer
What buyers said on the reviews
284 comments and replies read across 3 videos · 5 from people who own one · 37% positive, 15% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸The front living room as a true separate gathering/movie space with two opposing slides
- ▸Kitchen that is not shrunken by the front living layout; island, coffee/wine bar, hood and lighting
- ▸Dual-entry bathroom with Jack-and-Jill sinks
- ▸Storage: bedroom closets, nine drawers, MORryde drawer, cavernous pass-through
What they pushed back on
- ▸Length and weight: 45 ft, ~24k GVWR needs a dually/HDT and limits campgrounds; many want a 35-ft version
- ▸Sofa-heavy living room with no sleeper, no theater seating, no desk, no drink surfaces
- ▸Only one bathroom at this size and price
- ▸Forest River parent stigma and Schwintek slides at a $180k-250k price
Owners speaking
“Love the channel JD! Michele and I bought a 2026 43BFC this year, largely due to your reviews of Riverstone. We absolutely love our new rig! I noticed they have made a major adjustment in the 2027 model. The AC temp sensors are now on the wall not in the ceiling! Placing them in the ceiling leads to very inaccurate readings. Otherwise, it's very much like living in a luxury high-end condo on wheels.”
11 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“I have a 2025 Riverstone. I’m liking what they are doing with the 2027. Love this one, but it is just too much sofa in the living room. It needs sleeper sofa, reclining love seat and a desk.”
2 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“Only running 2 A/C's at a time of the 3 this summer in the Livingston area in full sun. With the thicker walls cooling the unit is not a problem on 100 degree days. 2025 39rkfb”
1 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
Complaints, in their words
“Forest River....Umm? Isn't that the "F" in WTF?”
10 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“never buy from WTF….Winnebago, Thor, Forest River. NeVer!”
6 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“I love the front office as we intend to travel and work. I would prefer an island is the kitchen. I also prefer the laundry/half bath rooms I’ve been seeing. Overall a very nice trailer”
5 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“i saw like 3 schwintechs on this $180k camper and i lost my marbles, please tell friver that anybody who knows about rvs does not want this system especially at this price point I love that your reviews hold the full 360 on the outside as well. I know some people space out on the tech specs but it is important to a lot of people.”
5 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
Praise, in their words
“Love the channel JD! Michele and I bought a 2026 43BFC this year, largely due to your reviews of Riverstone. We absolutely love our new rig! I noticed they have made a major adjustment in the 2027 model. The AC temp sensors are now on the wall not in the ceiling! Placing them in the ceiling leads to very inaccurate readings. Otherwise, it's very much like living in a luxury high-end condo on wheels.”
11 likes · a viewer on Big Truck Big RV · open ↗
“I love the size of the front office! So many are too small. I need lots of windows, too. That is great!”
6 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“I love the front office as we intend to travel and work. I would prefer an island is the kitchen. I also prefer the laundry/half bath rooms I’ve been seeing. Overall a very nice trailer”
5 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
“That living room is so awesome! Have a fun movie night or game night or just relax on a hot day. The kitchen is bigger than my house! It's perfect!”
4 likes · a viewer on The RV Hunter · open ↗
Reviewer criticisms
“notice how the TV is sticking out just a hair. They're talking about building this out or putting that back in.”
The RV Hunter at 3:55 · open ↗
TV sticks out on this first unit; factory to recess it
“It's also angled. So I'm not sure why it would be angled.”
The RV Hunter at 12:24 · open ↗
Angled bedroom shelf purpose unclear to reviewer
“Since this is the first one off the line, this will be debuting at the Hershey RV show.”
The RV Hunter at 0:45 · open ↗
No final specs available at filming
“What do you guys think? I kind of like the round ones as well, especially when they're frameless.”
Big Truck Big RV at 5:47 · open ↗
Prefers the older rounded frameless windows to the new square ones
Videos this is based on
- NATIONAL DEBUT | 2027 Riverstone Legacy 45FLE | All New Front Living Riverstone · The RV Hunter · 20K views · 132 comments read · 45FLE national debut
- Mind Blowing Luxury RV from RIVERSTONE · Big Truck Big RV · 48K views · 57 comments read · 2027 Riverstone debut, Hershey
- HIDDEN FRONT OFFICE | 2026 Riverstone Legacy 425FO · The RV Hunter · 13K views · 95 comments read · 2026 Riverstone Legacy 425FO (front office)
Research notes
- Model year: manufacturer page, on-camera unit and dealer listings are all 2027.
- Weights, dimensions and tank capacities come from Forest River's 2027 45FLE page (they were 'TBD' when the debut video was shot); the RV Hunter video description carries identical figures.
- forestriverinc.com returns 403 to plain fetchers; the same data was read from the print view at home.forestriverinc.com and from the raw HTML of the brand feature list at forestriverinc.com/rvs/riverstone.
- Riverstone's 'Luxury Package' and 'Ultimate Electronics Package' are mandatory, so their contents (6-point hydraulic leveling, washer/dryer, dishwasher, Truma, TPMS, second awning, 2,000W inverter, 200W solar, 65-in TV, hardwood cabinetry) are treated as standard. The Legacy Package (full body paint, disc brakes, 3rd A/C, 400W solar + 100Ah lithium, LCI waste system) is optional and is treated as option even though the unit shown has it.
- Sister-floorplan caveat: BTBRV's FOW3JcowaNg is a 43BFC. Only brand-wide construction claims (12-in double I-beam, steel cage, fiberglass Impact Guard roof, 3-in hung wall, Azdel) were used; its weights, half bath, walk-in closet and $250k estimate were not.
Headline: 44'11" · 19,771 lb empty · GVWR 24,000 lb
Grand Design Solitude 380FL2027$127,999 dealer street41'4" · 15,800 lb empty▾
Grand Design's current 380FL page (ModelYear 2027).
Why consider the Model R
- ▸Same 41'4" length with a larger listed cargo allowance
- ▸Tandem 10K independent suspension with hydraulic disc brakes standard
- ▸Dual-pane windows, 400 W solar, 3,000 W inverter and 200 Ah lithium in the base package
Why consider the Solitude 380FL
- ▸Lower published empty weight (15,800 vs 18,750 lb)
- ▸One-and-a-half baths and two tri-fold sofas
- ▸Much larger black/waste capacity (106 vs 52 gal)
- ▸Independent suspension is also standard on the current 2027 Solitude
Confirm before you buy
- ▸Exact Solitude axle rating and whether disc brakes are on the quoted unit
- ▸Selected bed, solar and lithium package, fridge power type
- ▸Model R production specs and price
Equipment
- Half bathIncluded
- DishwasherNo
- Washer / dryerPrep
- Residential-size fridgeIncluded
- 65-inch TVNo
- Recliners / theater seatingIncluded
- Sleeper sofaIncluded
- Desk / office useIncluded
- King bedOptional
- 3 air conditionersNo
- 400 W solar standardNo
- Lithium batteryOptional
- Disc brakesOptional
- Independent suspensionIncluded
- No cable slidesMixed (some cable)
- 6-pt hydraulic auto-levelIncluded
- Outdoor kitchenNo
- Dual-pane windowsOptional
- Bath reachable with slides inNo
- Full-time-rated warrantyNot verified
Not published by the maker: floor.
Specifications, with sources
Size & weight
- Length
- 41.33 ftManufacturer
- Empty weight (published)
- 15,800 lbManufacturer
- GVWR
- 19,000 lbManufacturer
- Dry hitch weight
- 3,052 lbManufacturer
- Cargo allowance
- 2,962 lbSaid on camera
- Height
- 13.42 ftManufacturer
Tanks
- Fresh
- 83 galManufacturer
- Grey
- 106 galManufacturer
- Black
- 106 galManufacturer
- Propane
- 60 lbManufacturer
Layout
- Slides
- 5Manufacturer
- Half bath
- YesSaid on camera
- King bed
- OptionalManufacturer
- Sleeper sofa
- YesManufacturer
- Theater seating / recliners
- IncludedManufacturer
- Desk or office use
- YesManufacturer
- Bath reachable with slides in
- NoSaid on camera
Kitchen & laundry
- Refrigerator
- 12VManufacturer
- Fridge size
- 20 cu ftManufacturer
- Dishwasher
- NoneManufacturer
- Washer / dryer
- PrepManufacturer
- Range burners
- 4Manufacturer
- Island
- YesSaid on camera
Construction
- Frame
- Lippert Omega fifth-wheel frame (2026+): thicker steel, more fasteners, larger lag screws, added adhesives, stronger outriggers, larger gussets, additional crossmembers; 101" widebody drop-frame SuperChassis with heavy-duty I-beam main rails set outward and slide gearpacks enclosed inside the rails; 5-year transferable frame warranty. I-beam size not published.Manufacturer
- Walls
- Fully laminated sidewalls: welded aluminum framing, rigid foam insulation, high-gloss gel coat fiberglass exterior; '5-Side Aluminum Cage Construction'. R-11. Thickness and interior substrate (luan vs composite) not published.Manufacturer
- Roof
- FiberglassManufacturer
- Roof warranty
- lifetimeManufacturer
- Floor deck
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Insulation
- Roof R-40, walls R-11, main floor R-45, slide R-11 (manufacturer-published, with asterisk disclaimer). Radiant foil + fiberglass in roof and underbelly; insulated gooseneck; vented attic.Manufacturer
- Heated underbelly
- YesManufacturer
Running gear
- Slide mechanism
- Mixed (some cable)Said on camera
- Axles
- 2Manufacturer
- Axle rating
- 7,000 lb eachManufacturer
- Tire load range
- HManufacturer
- Brakes
- Disc optional; drum standardSaid on camera
- Suspension
- Independent, includedManufacturer
- 6-point hydraulic leveling
- IncludedManufacturer
Climate & power
- Air conditioners
- 2Manufacturer
- AC capacity
- 15000, 15000Manufacturer
- Heat pump
- NoManufacturer
- Furnace
- 35,000 BTUManufacturer
- Solar (standard)
- 330 WManufacturer
- Inverter (standard)
- Not verifiedNot verified
- Lithium
- OptionalManufacturer
- Generator
- Onboard optionalManufacturer
- Dual-pane windows
- OptionalManufacturer
Warranty
- Base warranty
- 1 yrManufacturer
- Structural warranty
- 3 yrManufacturer
- Rated for full-time living
- Not verifiedNot verified
What buyers said on the reviews
85 comments and replies read across 3 videos · 2 from people who own one · 27% positive, 26% negative, the rest neutral or questions.
What they liked
- ▸Storage: full pass-through basement plus the rear MorRyde slide-out tray and the many hidden cubbies (the one verified owner's favorite thing).
- ▸The front-living layout itself: big entertaining room, separated kitchen, feels like an apartment and is seen as a full-time/retirement rig.
- ▸The hardware story: fiberglass roof, Omega frame, independent suspension and disc brakes are noticed and praised even by people who pass on the floorplan.
- ▸Two bathrooms and full-size vent fans; the huge rear bath and recessed shower.
What they pushed back on
- ▸Kitchen counter/prep space is repeatedly called inadequate; the hutch is mocked as dollhouse-sized; no dishwasher at this price.
- ▸50-in TV is too small for the room; several say 55-75 in should be standard and a Brinkley owner cites a 65-in.
- ▸Schwintek/cable slides on a $120k+ coach is a stated deal-breaker for the most-liked commenter.
- ▸No bathroom reachable with the slides in (confirmed by Myles) is called a deal-breaker for travel-day use.
Owners speaking
Complaints, in their words
“At the price points of these higher end coaches why are any of them still using the junk schwintek and cable slides? This will be a deciding factor for me.”
6 likes · a viewer on Myles RVs · open ↗
“Can we make 65", 70", and 75" tvs standard in these 5th wheels and motorhomes. You pay all these money for 50" tvs really”
5 likes · a viewer on THATRVGIRL · open ↗
“Damn, Josh! I'd park it on a Lake and live in it full time! Edit: For a super premium brand I would have expected a dishwasher drawer in the Kitchen..”
5 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“I like the layout but don't like the design/colors of this trailer. When you go camping, you want a cozy, trailer, not a cold, stark white and bright lights.”
5 likes · a viewer on Myles RVs · open ↗
Praise, in their words
“I bought one an pick it up next week. This is an incredible unit an I live in mine fulltime. I loved the storage one of my favorite things about it.”
5 likes · a viewer on THATRVGIRL · open ↗
“Damn, Josh! I'd park it on a Lake and live in it full time! Edit: For a super premium brand I would have expected a dishwasher drawer in the Kitchen..”
5 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
“I like the layout but don't like the design/colors of this trailer. When you go camping, you want a cozy, trailer, not a cold, stark white and bright lights.”
5 likes · a viewer on Myles RVs · open ↗
“Beautiful! Everything is perfect! I’m in love but I think I’m gonna need a bigger truck. 😂”
3 likes · a viewer on Josh the RV Nerd · open ↗
Reviewer criticisms
“they tend to have fairly limited kitchen countertop prep space.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 9:37 · open ↗
Front-living plans have limited kitchen counter prep space
“And the half bath actually has a TFL countertop, thermal foil laminate, sorry.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 7:47 · open ↗
Half bath uses TFL laminate counter, not solid surface
“It's tight. It's definitely a quick visit guest half bath.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 8:19 · open ↗
Half bath is tight
“it needs a little indirect light behind that. I just don't like I don't like shadows under cabinetry.”
Josh the RV Nerd at 10:45 · open ↗
Hutch lacks indirect lighting
Videos this is based on
- Home-style Separated Living & Kitchen + Guest Friendly! 2026 Solitude 380FL Fifth Wheel RV · Josh the RV Nerd · 7.5K views · 38 comments read · 2026 Solitude 380FL walkthrough
- The BIGGEST Luxury Fifth Wheel EVER Built?!...Solitude 380FL · THATRVGIRL · 14K views · 28 comments read · 2026 Solitude 380FL
- The best options… now STANDARD | 2027 Grand Design Solitude 380FL front living fifth wheel RV Tour · Myles RVs · 17K views · 19 comments read · 2027 Solitude 380FL
Research notes
- Model-year mix: manufacturer page and MSRP are 2027; the 2026 Solitude brochure (Rev 12.4.25) was used for items missing from the 2027 page (6-pt hydraulic auto-level, central vac, 60K BTU tankless, receiver hitch rating, 2026 UVW 15,000). Josh and THATRVGIRL toured 2026 units; Myles toured a 2027.
- The granddesignrv.com 380FL page renders via JavaScript; specs were taken from its embedded meta fields (UVW 15,800; hitch 3,052; GVWR 19,000; GAWR 14,000; 496 in length; 101 in width; 161 in height; 97 in interior; 83/106/106 gal; 60 lb LP; 35,000 BTU furnace; 30,000 BTU A/C; 20 cu ft fridge; 5 slides; 2 axles; ST215/75R17.5 LRH; R-40/R-11/R-45/R-11; shower 48x30; queen std, king opt; 2 awnings; sleeps 6; MSRP $180,926).
- Standard features on the 2027 page include: Drop Frame Chassis, Upgraded Axle Hangers, 5-Side Aluminum Cage Construction, Walk-On Roof, Fully Enclosed Underbelly w/ Heated Tanks and Storage, Worry-Free Composite Roof w/ Lifetime Warranty, MORryde Independent Suspension System, MORryde Pin Box, 17.5" H-Rated Cooper Tires, Stealth A/C System, 35K BTU furnace, On Demand Water Heater, Whole House Water Filtration, Brass Plumbing Fittings w/ Shut Offs, 50A service, 55A converter, Hardwood Cabinet Doors, Hardwood Drawer Boxes w/ Undermount Guides, Solid Surface Countertops, Theater Seating, Double Tri-Fold Hide-A-Bed Sofas, Front Cap Windshield, Washer/Dryer Prep, Ultrafabrics Ultraleather Furniture, Rockford Fosgate stereo, OmniConnect WiFi Ready, Tire Linc TPMS, Roof Ladder, 17.5" undermount spare.
- Standard packages on the 2027 380FL: Max Built Construction, Peace of Mind, Residential Living, Weather-Tek. Optional: Extreme Lithium Package, Dual Pane Windows, Slide-Out Awnings/Toppers, Heat Pump A/C, Generator Prep, NPS 6000W LP Generator, King Bed, Full Body Paint, Ultraleather color choice, Desk & Dinette Hybrid Ensemble, Dinette Booth, Solitude Solar System (300W/2000W inverter), 7K or 8K Axles with Disc Brakes. Package contents are not itemized on the page.
- CONFLICT brakes: reviewers say disc brakes are standard with the MORryde IS on the 380FL; manufacturer brand-wide options list still shows disc-brake axle packages as options. Recorded as disc_option per brief rules; verify with Grand Design before scoring.
Headline: 41'4" · 15,800 lb empty · GVWR 19,000 lb
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Sources and method
Model R data is from Brinkley's supplied pre-production flyer, revision 090426, and will be replaced by production specifications when released; the pre-production label stays until then. Competitor specs come from each manufacturer's published floorplan and construction pages, cross-checked against what reviewers read off the unit on camera; dealer listings supply street prices only, and every spec cell names its source. Nothing is scored or ranked; a cell is a published fact or it says Not published. Comments and replies were collected in full from 23 videos, model year 2026 or newer, and every quote links to the exact comment or timestamp. Included means standard or in a manufacturer-mandatory package; Optional and Prep are as stated; Not verified means unpublished, not absent. Manufacturer logos and floorplan drawings identify each maker's product and remain their property. Manufacturer BTU, decibel and insulation figures are claims, not tests. Research date 2026-09-08.